My last 2 years in Kgp have kept me busy in music almost throughout the year. Here is what I've gathered from the experience (speaking about entertainment/music only).
Three habits of winning people -
How to win in any event -
a) "Tap" potential fachchas.
b) Get a judge who would be pass-out of your hall.
c) Get the gymkhana ent-secy in your hall.
How to win a groups event -
a) Get a slot different than first 3.
b) Get your hall people to kowtow.
c) Be the black horse - you can come second most of the times.
How to win a vocals event -
a) Sing some fundoo pop number with hoohaa modulation in western vocals.
b) Claim that you have not had training.
c) Sing same songs for all the duration you are here.
How to win an intrumentals event -
a) Do some wizardry (e.g. biting your guitar or playing tabla (only right) by both hands time and again).
b) Again, play same pieces over the years (except this year).
c) "Ek guitar aur ek synth... sabhi hall yehi karenge... kya sexy lagega be.... judge ekdam impress ho jayega.... nahi to kuchh nahi aanewala apna is event me.... mai bata raha hoon na."
And the other side of the coin - three habits of losing people.
How to lose any event -
a) Try something beyond your caliber, no matter how it comes out.
b) Find some excuse for not performing, you can do anything you want during this time - chat, play guitar/synth in your room, sleep, go to chhedis etc etc.
c) Get disheartened very easily (kya rakha hai, sab moh-maya hai!).
How to lose in a groups event -
a) Be overconfident about your musical abilities, don't care about tightness, meager amount of practice would be enough.
b) Don't choose something which you can do better than other halls.
c) Get a first day first slot when the judge is good, or any slot when the judge is normal.
How to lose in a vocals event -
a) Realize that you don't stand a chance anyway, so try something out of the blue.
b) Re-organize the ongoing event because of some impertinent reason.
c) Choose accopanyists who are not-so-experienced.
How to lose in a instrumentals event -
a) Any excuse (e.g. going to Cal) for not participating will do - samajh rahe ho na!
b) Try playing different instruments and decide which one to play 1 hour before the event.
c) Play what YOU like rather than what THEY like.
I have seen the habits of losing people creeping in most of us losers (sure these were sore grapes for me, I will be the first one blogging the other view - how it feels to lose) though I'd rather advice not to indulge proactively in so-called good habits (unless you have exceptional tempo like Daku or Bhatu or few other people).
Why am I being so sarcastic? There's a proverb in Marathi meaning "A wise needs no explaination". I hope people are wise enough to digest this sarcasm (In my defence I argue that if they can't take it, they may not be that wise!).
p.s. I sincerely hope that the persons criticised/glorified in the above post read this entirely (esp. all the RP-ent team members) because this is what an ent-captain should have done and has failed to do - motivate his teammates.
Saturday, 18 March 2006
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is it ur music room u r targetting??
yes, mainly. will like to explain to my ent team.
rp always lost becaz
1)ther is no tempo in the hall..no supporters..even the so called "music team members dont turn out for the shows/intrumentals/vocal"..when other co-members r performin
2)ppl more concerned to show their personal cali rather than a gud show...like DT...which is neva appretiated by the judges...
3)ppl dont know to respect..like goin to other hall n critizing n makin fun of their seniors...
4)their is a trend settin in the hall that neone can kata the events due to acads n all...which cant be questioned...
5)v dnt hav very gud vocalist..jo hai they neva come prepared...n juniors dont show ne tempo to learn...wat will happen when the present instrumentalist/vocalist will leave this place? whom to blame them...
6)thers no point in critizing others,caz evey1 hav many loopholes cant manage perfectly...criticing neva help "winning"..it helps "losing"...
7)Finally,rp always put up gr8 shows in the past appretiated by every1 arnd the campus...music is winnin the hearts not only winnin competitions...n still every one in the campus fear RP team n will fear always...thats the bottom line..."SO PEACE MARO"!!!
RP MUSIC TEAM IS THE BEST!
Leard from ppl who have won. stop criticizing. Playing DT!!! some kind of a joke or what? hallowed be thy name ??? u know how horrible it sounds to the audience. u ppl dont even care abt ur patches. u dont care abt ur mixing. nothing!!!! and u think wt u do on stage is difficult??? a school band can play as good(bad) as u ppl. there is still time to learn. stop walking down to cheddis and making a circle and talk all tht crap abt this metal that shit..this solo that bull shit!!! show it in ur deeds!! sala google search maarke fundaa collect karna is no fucking deal. as long as ur guitars dont talk and ur vacalists keep sucking, u wont go newhere. Thank god, u hav a gud drummer and a gud guy in ur present drummer. He is the only asset of ur team. but, again...he is too immature. He and u all shud understand tht...playing all tht so called big fundaa music tht u ppl think u do on stage sounds nothing but crap for each and ev1 watching ur shows. aukaat mai rehke bajao. tabhi u ppl will have a slim chance of making an impression.
Individual talent does no good. As a band, u hav to luk like one. and for god sakes dont ever play those DT numbers. U ppl are pathetic at that lemme tell u. U r a joke cos u think u play DT well!! hahahahahahahahaha.
Its better to realise n learn, than to make mistakes again an again...i feel watever written above is correct in someway...but the guy who had written it...is pretending to be a gr8 music analyst...maa ke laure...kgp mai hai aukat mai rah ...music ka phd karke aur shows karke hilayega kya...kon sa metallica jaisa band banayega koi..2 din guitar mai lead baja lena se koi musician nahi bun jata...so nothin to analyze so much...jo hai saab acha hai...njoy music thats it...n do wat u heart feel to be correct caz u will be criticized neway..thats the kgp attitude...so MAA CHUDAYE...iit aur yahan ke log...keep doin the gud wrk n work for ur career,that wil only pay at the end...now stop discussing such shits!!!
anonymous 2 jo bola hai bahut sahi bola hai. anonymous bhi thoda bahut theek bola hai. follow ur heart ka jo fundaa tha. lekin i ll add. follow ur heart and accept defeat gracefully if u have followed ur heart. because, if u have not won after following ur heart, u have never followed ur heart the right way!! and winning does not mean tht u have necessarily followed ur heart, but it sure means that u have WON many hearts!!! Thats the BOTTOMLINE. The thing is every Individual has to make sacrifices for the team to win. If RP wants to hav a semblance of a chance, they have 2 start making sacrifices. If they continue following their heart this way, there will always be some "kartik" who ll be blogging away his frustness (and blaming and criticizing ev1 in the kgp music circle...apart from him..as if he is the only GENIUS) at the end of his academic year!
anonymous 2 jo bola hai bahut sahi bola hai. anonymous bhi thoda bahut theek bola hai. follow ur heart ka jo fundaa tha. lekin i ll add. follow ur heart and accept defeat gracefully if u have followed ur heart. because, if u have not won after following ur heart, u have never followed ur heart the right way!! and winning does not mean tht u have necessarily followed ur heart, but it sure means that u have WON many hearts!!! Thats the BOTTOMLINE. The thing is every Individual has to make sacrifices for the team to win. If RP wants to hav a semblance of a chance, they have 2 start making sacrifices. If they continue following their heart this way, there will always be some "kartik" who ll be blogging away his frustness (and blaming and criticizing ev1 in the kgp music circle...apart from him..as if he is the only GENIUS) at the end of his academic year!
very interesting.
first thing i wanted to make clear - why am i borrowing anger and spite from friends just at the time i am passing out? because i hope they make some sense of this discussion, improve upon their shortcomings and be better people, better musicians. The i won't care what they think of me.
another thing, if you are offended personally, take it or leave it, life has been unfair and will be at many points, when you can do nothing about it. i felt the same frustration and blogged it. you feel something, you comment on this, or write in your blog. if you think "how to win" points are mordant, take it with some sugar, you may laugh at times. "how to lose" points are there to make others realize what went wrong.
further i would like forthcoming anonymous persons to write their name in the comment, this would help me to explain by seeing the reason of that person writing something.
@anon-who-enumerated -
1.ther is no tempo in the hall..no supporters-> read there is no tempo in the team members also.
2.ppl more concerned to show their personal cali-> "playing what YOU like rather than what THEY like" syndrome.
3.Don't know respect -> It can't be taught to fellow members how to show respect. further respect of other members towards yourself has to be earned.
4.trend which cannot be questioned -> so who was talking about all-round development, group skills and hall tempo?
5.v dnt hav very gud vocalist..jo hai they neva come prepared -> it is the very job of captain to identify and appoint the right people at right places, it is not juniors' job.
6.criticizing never helps winning -> i don't see how. This very discussion should spark the right inspiration.
7.finally RP team is best and most feared -> No. How do you define "best-ness"?
so peace maro -> that's the precise attitude why we lost.
@anon2 -
i think you are bitten more than what i expected, but still i'd like to explain.
walking down to chhedi's and discussing metal has no relation to showing superiority and only few of the members are regular in that. some of them may be immature in the way they treat others or in the matter they see success, agreed they have to accept few hard facts and cope more with others. and i also would like them being less recluse. and i also know few other people who also have such discussions, and i have my own reservations about them.
searching on google was never a bad idea.
i don't know you have anything against DT or what, but if you had heard spirit carries on last year (maybe overture this year didn't come out as good) you might not have said that. again personally i feel RK's take away my pain was out of beat at many times, but i don't go say that don't play DT.
"hahahahha" - that shows your spite and immaturity. anyway, no hard feelings.
@anon(3) -
it is correct in some way that few persons are perceived as having superiority complex - some of them don't want to convey that but eventually end up doing that by their behavior.
stop discussing such shits -> the shit part of it (how to win) is crap i know, but i really wanted to put forward the mistakes been commited in "how to lose".
@ anon3 -
very true. RP-ent-team has to realize the importance of individual sacrifices. they are really scared of those. thanks for bringing out that point.
i have already accepted the defeat. i never said that we lost and still we were superior than others. (it is another issue that winning in these events really represents musical superiority or the very need of defining musical superiority - if such thing exists)
i am not saying that i'm any authority (genius) on this issue, i blogged my views. i sincerely believe those views represent my feelings and i'm not at all repentant after writing this blog. i might have criticized few (wrong) people in this process, but again, i have been criticized for wrong reasons at many times. i had this notion - even if others think irrationally, keep you sanity and think logically again. only problem in this being no-one else seemed to follow this notion. so i have also joined their pool. i think what i think, may be that won't sound reasonable to other people.
U r eccentric!!!! thats wat u r!!!! All u hav managed to do here is portray urself as some kind of a genius!! and we all know u r jus opposite of that. And unfortunately ur hall mates ur fella musicians will know that now. Better late than never...as they say!! Y dont u go ahead and mention some of ur failures man!?!? i m sure there must be a dozen of them. put up a blog and start bashing urself up. take some responsibilty for ur teams performance man. y shove it up others!!?
i think this is vishal. don't be a coward to hide your name. (and if it is not vishal, never mind. this response is mostly targetted on vishal)
thanks for bringing me on ground and not letting air to get in my head. but look at you son, all YOU have managed in this spiteful act (of wtms mail and anon comments) is portraying YOURself as genius, and we all don't care what you actually are. unfortunately your hallmates will soon don't care about you (because of your attitude - i still strongly oppose a person of such attitude in a society because what a society needs is a cohesion rather than sheer talent, and i'm not the only one to think likewise. it is the precise reason why i am at ease with etms than wtms)
"Y dont u go ahead and mention some of ur failures man!?!?" -> that shows you missed the whole point of the blog. the blog is all about criticizing rp's ent team for under-performance.
"i m sure there must be a dozen of them. put up a blog and start bashing urself up" -> that's what the blog was.
"take some responsibilty for ur teams performance man. y shove it up others!!?" -> read the last para and last line of the blog. I was the (eastern) ent captain of rp which has failed to do his job.
i don't freaking care about someone called Vishal Singh - let him have his genius(!?) and his attitude. I care more about my friends so this is the way I brought out my views about them in a sincere hope of their & my betterment. i don't give a f*** about going public or not. rather mailing to few ppl and not revealing youlrself shows your cowardice.
I'd encourage you to comment more on this ,let all the filth come up (unleash the f**king fury) - it has already got enough dirty and i had already thought of that before writing this blog.
We are fully aware of the mistakes we committed.......and we dont consider ourselves as Gods...we know our limitations ....And that is the exact reason we dont write blogs critisizing others .....But yeah there is some(atleast some) credibility to our success in the recent past which shudnt have been just denied in ur blog...we give a damn to ur blog coz u have been a great frd and colleague all these years...u r respected to be one of the more rational persons around......so please live upto that reputation of urs atleast when u r adressing ppl from a public platform......ur blog hurted the sentiments of one and all........anyway, i understand how it feels when u dont get ur due....so its ok :).....
for anon2:
mother fucker....try comin out in open 'n' say a fuckin thin abt DT..'n' i sware 2 god u won't b abl 2 sit upright 4 the next few months @#$%&
as far as kartik's cali is concerned...u certainly doesn't have the cali 2 make it to the ETMS/WTMS..DON'T U ?? 'COZ OHTERWISE U WUDN'T HAVE DARED TO SAY A THING ABT HIM
if u wanna reply to my comment..try comin out in open...otherwise FUCK OFF @#@@$#
u r short sighted or wat. Mr Kartik?? The spite cannot only come from rk. there are other halls who have performed better than u. and u hav targetted em in ur fucking moronic blog aswell. who the fuck is vishal singh neways. he is a great guitarist thats all i know. if he has given u a shock by sending some goddamn mail in the wtms group thats his and ur fucking problem. I dun no nething abt wtms and dont give a fuck either. u were ghastly in ur blog. and sorry i didnt know u were the captain. cos surely u never lukd like u wud be able to lead a bunch of ppl and hell i was damn right. Good work go fucking bash urself and ur team on ur blog. nice fucking way aint it??? dont try to be a stud by claiming tht u dont care. cos u know fucking wat?? u dont care cos u ll be moving ur ass out of kgp in 2 months time. thts y u dont fucking care.
@punit - if you think all the criticism was on you, read it again, think over it again. I never denied that RK's performances were much better than most of other halls in all the ent-events. and i never criticized anybody for winning, all i did is bringing out tha fallacies, which might have turned the results. your success is definitely credible and you definitely deserve it. the only frustration of mine is we could have been better and we were not upto par. specifically speaking about eastern groups, we could have never been better than RK aur Azad maybe, but we could have definitely been third - that's where slot, choice of songs, deficiency of practice & lack of tempo showed.
speaking about public platform, i consider my blog as my personal space, though all the world can view it, it still remains my opinion. if you don't find it rational, allow me to explain it.
@anon2 - i'm myopic (sorry, a lame PJ).
there are halls other than rk - that's what i meant when i said we could have been better - we could have been better than other halls (except rk in eastern groups).
"u were ghastly in ur blog" -> so why care to read? treat it as just another abuse.
even if i were here for a couple of years more, i'd still have not cared about that guy.
in the end i did not understand the point of this comment, please elaborate it if your intention is not abusing only. in spite of all your abuses, i will still like to clarify either through these comments or better if we talk, that is if you reveal your identity.
and if you don't know to spell my name, i am Kartik Varadpande.
@kc - thanks for your read and your support. speaking about hurting people, people don't know and don't care how other hurt people feel otherwise.
@vishal
"if you had the courage, why did you not say any of this in front of me.. rather than writing something which reflects your cowardice and your upbringing in general..." -> after western instrumental we never met, otherwise i'd have directly spoken to you. and why did you write on the wtms mail then... you should have written that here at the first place. "WTMS is what concerns me" -> that's where i beg to differ. it also shows YOUR upbringing by the way of your language.
had chacko jacob not been the judge (he's rk pass-out), you had ZERO chance of winning western instrumental. you played good, but in spite of your hallmates telling you not to act stupidly before judges, you did it - you did what YOU wanted. and it was really really stupid playing guitar by your teeth.
"i do not claim to be any good, but at least i work hard for whatever i am doing and i have enough to prove it.." -> don't give me that, enough number of people have known you for your attitude.
"what do you have? you do not appear to be a stud anyway and trying to play a number of instruments does not help your cause..." --> i never tried to play many instruments, i had to, because others refused, that's one fo the reasons i started playing bass.
"i think if you had spent more of your time practising than bitching about others or giving some of your metal fundas... " -> that shows you don't know me. most probably you have more metal funda than me, you can ask about this to various people if you don't believe. i don't act imitate any of the persons you might have seen with me, or whoever you were targetting that comment to.
"i will not reply to any of this shit.." -> please do rather than posting something on group.
"do not delete this post" -> i never feared anyone, you? ha!
"Practise without being complacent." -> not your cup of tea.
"It is not important to get people from your hall" -> not in vocals.
"Learn how to play the instrument." -> as if no-one knew that
"Learn to IMPROVISE" -> so that you can play arbit stuff in even a song like papa kehte hain.
"DO NOT copy others" -> so biting your guitar was original stuff?
"There should be dignity in defeat ... and joy in victory" -> and there also should be a tinge of modesty in the victory, but again, none of your concerns.
"I do not believe in a public outburst of grievances" -> this was more self bashing than an outburst of grievance, if you have not understood it still.... you never will.
"I hope that an ent-captain or a G.sec.reading this would realize that he/she should motivate by example rather than criticising other halls or your own hallmates." -> try motivating people without making them aware of their shortcomings, but again, they will have to respect you before listening to you... alas!
as debo and dash have rightly pointed out, there is no use spamming the group mail. write to me personally or here in the comments. so will i.
you are such a loser man... chacko jacob is no RK passouut.. he is IT Bhu.. u suck man...
as for my attitude... as long as i can win gold medals and be respected and liked by my hall mates and fellow musicians here... i dont give a shit..
i am sure you had a great synth player.. but trying to claim that you could have won as a team.. man ure so pathetic... you had ZERO chance..
i wonder how you find time to write this crap.. you are such a loser... as for ent teams and captains is concerned.. you ask both my captains and they will tell you about me... and my co-operation and attitude!!
as for practising without being complacent-- that was meant for vocals, definitely not my cup of tea.. but yes, i do practise more than YOU and the results show for themselves..
IMPROVISE --- what do you know about it? have you ever tried picking up any song without GP4? can you play anything yourself?
as for my hallmates telling me not to act stupidly.. i dont know who gave you that shit? i do what I LIKE and do not listen to shit... (unlike you and your reason for pickin up bass ) and I PLAY what i want.. I believe that as a musician, it is your privilege what you want to play..
i have all respects for debo, dash, andre, cathode and others who do not write bullshit in a public domain.. you are a complete jerkoff...
i can only wish you luck as you pass out of this place... i had said earlier that it is important to realize that people can be better than you and that competition should motivate you than dissuade you from hard work...
there is still time man.. pick up the bass or the guitar and sweat it out.. i am sure you'll start feeling better.
@kc - i didn't say there is anything wrong in that, it's a habit of winning people. agreed after all it's halls, so why do I give a damn? why do people bother to reply so often to this blog? after all it's just another opinion of some guy who will not be seen in a couple of months!
@vishal - get out of your caccoon and think again. there is lots of music besides you. sure we had synth players in hall, had you been in the constraints i faced, i wonder if you could have come up with better solution.
"as long as i can win gold medals" -> don't let get the air to fill in your head, you may incidentally win when you are here, you might not be the best in/outside the campus.
"and be respected and liked by my hall mates" -> wake up.
"as for ent teams and captains is concerned" -> i am in very good position to guess their opinion of you.
"i do practise more than YOU" -> like hell, you know what i do throughout the day.
"practising without being complacent .... not my cup of tea" -> which holds not only for vocals, not only for music... everything.
"improvise" -> i have been into indian classical music for more time than you are learning/playing guitar. if you don't know about this genre, it is mostly about improvisation in a given raag.
"I believe that as a musician, it is your privilege what you want to play" -> playing what YOU like rather than playing what THEY like syndrome. as about bass, i'd rather play chapman stick when i can arrange enough cash.
"i can only wish you luck as you pass out of this place" -> thanks, same to you.
"it is important to realize that people can be better than you and that competition should motivate you than dissuade you from hard work" -> never denied that, but applies to you also, people can be better than YOU also. other pro-guitar players can be better than your idol also (may be not in your opinion, but you have got to respect other's opinion too.)
after all this blog-o-crap i am already feeling much better. all the grievancees are let out and i feel free. i just hope that people think rationally than taking any criticism prsonally and right people are moved in right way.
@cyren - i fully understand your viewpoint, and support it. the original post WAS sarcastic (winning habits) not intended to criticize or hurt people(winning habits), the losing habits were to cast light on our mistakes - as you have rightly understood.
the winning formula, as you said is virtually unknown - because some halls following the current formula (as they claim to know) have won, and some halls following same/similar formula have not.
as for replies, if i do not do that, i don't convey this other side of story to the people - that is if i can change their opinion.
and about joblessness - look at kc, he seems more jobless than me.
baap re ...
well different ppl will act differently when faced with the same situation...but surely,a common hatred for something does bring people closer :)
thnx to anonymous 2, in the 4th comment from the top, for calling me a good drummer ... and i can bet tht this guy is from Nehru Hall ... the only hall tht loves me so much :) ... [and I'd like to think SN does too :D ]
heheh ... come to think of it ... in the 4th comment anonymous actually said Thank god, u hav a gud drummer and a gud guy in ur present drummer ... man why am I not a good guy... :(( ... I try so hard to be one ... sob sob sob
correction - Thank god, u have a (close to)gud drummer and a gud guy in ur present better (by some distance) drummer. And a great DickInSon(near pretty near)!!
hmm...
i'll have to wrap this issue up sometime and i guess this is that time. so i leave my final comments (unless something new & interesting pops up)....
@anon2 - plz tell me who you are or i can't understand you. i may delete what i don't understand.
@coke - thanks for your read, but i was more concerned about rp-ent-team's mistakes than your good-guy-ness or good-drummer-ness.
@cyren - cool it off. you seem to have objection on coke's and anon2's comments. let them say what they want...
@mohit - i may be a day late on this, but why use such foul language when you are better known to be a "good-guy"?
@vishal - one whole day and i did not see your further comment, even you hid your eyes from me when i saw you in MS. anyway, the only thing i want to convey is that you are a talented musician, but you can be good only if you have a word called humility in your dictionary.
@punit - sorry if that hurt you, i guess you understood why i wrote the blog. no offense to you personally/otherwise.
@kc & kummy - joblessness rocks.
good-guyness of who??! My word. Again interpretations could go haywire. I think SNites(read: the non-males) like the "good guys/good drummers"!!! :-P. We all just sit and watch. !!!!!
And yes. to kartik. my name is "anonymous 2". i am from the great SAHARA deserts. So, thats all to wrap it up. I had a nice time reading all the shit(bull/horse/donkey/...etc) that was there on the blog and on the subsequent replies. I did my bit too. Thats all. You can go ahead and delete all the offensive posts. All the best for the future.Adios Amigos.
an SNite here, and i started reading these stupid posts recently. now i know how immatue you guys really are.
when i saw u guys on stage , especially rp, and the tempo and passion you have onstage i thought you ppl really love and cherish what u play. luks like thats not the case. you ppl seem to be just like the other guys in kgp doin things on stage just to get popular and 'imperss' a few 'non males' with your onstage antics.
@kartik : what was the point in starting all this debate ? i think it pissed off more ppl than make them learn. but i respect your talent i both eastern and western and i guess u were angry when you wrote this.
and an important issue :-
@anon2 : you think Snites are non-males. I don't understand what sort of a castrated male appears anon'sly and comments on other ppl.
@coke : we don't fancy sex-toys in SN, but u r too thin even for a dildo. i happened to read your vaginal 'simulation' blog ... so plz keep ur mouth shut and not comment on things u never understood.
@all : plz learn to respect and love music. even i listen to metal but i think doin metal all the time just reflects your general ignorance for other forms of music.
well, to all those who ever asked me why I stopped playing in the Insti ... I think you got the answer in the above posts ... it's no more about the music, is it ? ... probably it never was ...
I hope to adhere to the advice and keep my mouth shut on things I never understood.
hatred seems eternal.
anon2, anon-snite, latest-anons, and all previous-anons-who-are-still-reading, if you still fear public appearance, personally tell me who you are. i won't disclose your name unless you want me to, but be specific before starting to bitch. i guess i should have disabled the anon-comment feature... will do that if i don't know you soon.
@anon2 - mind your language.
"I had a nice time reading all the shit" -> which you were an integral part of.
"I did my bit too" - yeah, you did it well - shitting.
another anon2 comment, and i'm deleting more anon2-post(s). no second chance for you.
@anon-snite - we used to cherish what we played sincerely till last year. this year we played what we anticipated the judges to like. and interhalls are interhalls, they are not about impressing any snites (my fight on this front has ended long before, and except coke other rp-ent-members also rarely care). and i was more frustrated than angry when i wrote this becuase of under-performance. i still am, becuase people have taken the sarcasm personally and are bitching when not required. the point of starting all this is, as mentioned in above replies, waking up rp's ent team. about playing only metal, i don't know who you were targetting that comment to.
@coke - if it never was that, why did you start playing in the insti?
"keep my mouth shut on things I never understood." -> rather i would demand an explaination of things i didn't understand - may be through such blog.
@the-last-2-anons - please enlighten me also, who are they and who are YOU.
@kartik anon2 is actually two guys. both drummers from neighbouring halls. from the spite and the stupidity , judge for yourself which one's which.
listen guys. I am from RP and I did like the kind of music you played. yet i felt that DT was not really good, you should have done better. i do not think we deserved to win any of the groups, we could have got something at least - a third in both would have been fine.
about being anonymous, i have fair amount of idea about which anonymous is who, i want them to come out and speak in public if they aren't afraid of me. i have already suspected kc (being anon to enjoy the fun), coke, dash, mukherji & vishal and few more people being anonymous (another chance to reveal thei identities - my dc nick is neptune). about snite funda, i'm not sure whether the person is a real bandi or just another guy wanting to bash few people around - in either case i don't care as long as i don't contradict my own opinions.
@anon-rpian - had we been third in western groups - i would have still complained. and about eastern groups, i perfectly accept the judging, but we showed far less amount of tempo for practices than what we could/should have.
fullmetal laudanta. hamare hall ke laude musicians. if v doesnt improve and agar fullmetal laudanta jaise log rahein, jo bina practice kiye sab gaane chalein practice ke pehle booze maarein event ke pehle booze marein to sn hall ka bhi hum log kuch nahi bigad sakte. thankfully humlog ms hall se upar the is baar. if v doesnt improve very soon next time mahagandu baanke fir se gaand khujlaenge. dt dt karenge. dt karenge and points dt his milega. aur full metal gandu will be sings mahagandu songs and will be helps our hall by dt amount. fullmetal laudanta kabhi pehle sayonee suna tha? saare hall ka eastern show maine dekha, khud ke hall ke liye tempo shout dena is also disgraceful i feeling ven i vas there. so lauda lauda log sab abhi bhi time hai sudhar jao. next time gaand maraoge fir se. chutiatic halls se chudoge wildfire to bhool jao. toat mai to mahagaandu hagga peloge.
@mahagandu - i have deleted most of your posts because of obscenity. and i don't think you are from rp because you said you were ashamed to give tempo-shout after the show, whereas such a tempo-shout never occured. so you are allowed to post again only if you come without disguise (even if the alias suits your profile)
strict warning to all (and i really mean all) -> one swear-word in your comment anymore, and i'll delete... even if you are rational in your point.
umm, this might again veer the topic of discussion towards me but I just wanted to tell you that all the guys who are involved in this constructive criricism here do remind me of this pic i saw sumwhere on the net ... there's a handicapped boy running on the race track, nearing the finish line, trying to look like he's the happiest person on earth, and the caption reads : arguing over the internet is like taking part in the paralympics ; even if you win you are still retarded.
oh and yea, kartik I understand why you listed my name in the suspects for anonymous posts - I assure you I am not one of them ...
kartik, tereko sirf mere posts mai obscenity dikha? abe chasmuddin dhyan se baaki saare posts ko dekh le abhi chasma khol ke. top to bottom sabne max chutiaps machaya hai. seedha kyon nahi bolta g mai d nahi tha post isiliye mera post delete kiya.jo bhi myself told sab tereko rational feeling hua. and mark kar maine jo bola khud ke hall ke liye 'tempo shout dena is also disgraceful i feeling ven i vas there'. hindi mai samjhadoon to yeh hai ki cheer to nahi kar saka team ko during performance.so, tempo shout is obviously not in question.
obscenity ka mahachutiya excuse mat diya karo. yahan pe bahut log hain includes all anons, fullmetal idionta(i), snite jinka abhi bhi ashleel bhasa wala post pada hua hai. wo kya tere max fav log hain unka post rakhe hue hai?? agar tereme thoda sa gudda(DUM)hai to ye post delete maat kar. aaur han fullmetal jo bhi hai tu, sunle mera baap ko tu theek pehchana. abhi mai firse batadeta hon. tum log isko rational maano na maano tumhari whims.
m telling why we failed. atleast kartik thinks that something was gone wrong so we did not get some prizes. metalveda ya jo bhi tu hai tu sunle aaur baaki sab dekhlo kya kiye hum log western mai.
1. hotel california jaisa gaana sabko pata rehta hai usko atleast properly start to karo. starting mai hi makha diye.
2. stage pe chadhe interview dress mai. original idea tha kya saloon? tumko pata tha max teams wahi karengi. even more disgracing, idea is rana's. and i m sure neither you or me is rana's disciple. to aisa kyon kiye? ye logic wala and shame wala mistake tha.
3. ok. interview dress pehenke stage pe chadh gaye tum log. interview dress mai chadhe to sober songs karo jo dress ko suit kare. v peloed iron maiden and dream theatre. agar tum log claim karte ho ki you played these because its your liking, mai to nahi manoonga ki interview dress mai jaana tumhara liking tha(atleast fullmetal jaise logon ke liye). interview dress mai gaye to dhang se interview deneka nahi to baad mai frust hone ka. kya bolta tum log.?
4. wo har gaane ke end mai ek banda specially aake time kyon pooch raha tha? vocalist ki fatt rahi thi kya poochne ko? itna unprofessional.it will be not looking good from outside.
5. creed humko max points de sakta tha. even ven there was problem in voltage, it vas the best song. usko firse repeat kyon kiye? firse totally unprofessional.
6. numb ka lead aaj tak koi copy paste nahi maara hai. kisiko bhi pata nahi chalega if you are completing it 10 seconds before time. mai wahan pe was laughing and almost rolling on ground ven the 'time asker' came and told 'due to time shortage lead vas cut short'. interviewer ko bol rahe ho aaur thoda saa maarke khatam karo apni kahani.
7. last vut not the least. coke kyon nahi baja raha hall ke liye? apne team ka wo ek sensible banda hai. m sure wo ye sab hone nahi deta. atleast interview dressing. kyonki uspe wo acha nahi dikhta:).
8. fullmetal sochta hai ki humko gold marna chahiye tha. uske baarein mai kuch na bolo to acha hai. booze maar maar ke kaan mai booze bhar gaya hai. sunai to deta nahi hai.
abe saale mere naam ka use maat karo. let me clarify. this post and the big post(points waale) are mine. there is one chutiya who is making use of my name. personally i support coke and kartik a bit because myself thinks kartik is atleast a bit concerned for vat happened.
heheh, I am sorry kartik, the discussion did veer towards me, again ... :D ... hmmm, come to think of it, ppl talk abt me with more "passion" now, than they ever did before ... SAS or no SAS, I am enjoying the attention :D ... thank you-thank you ( takes a bow )
whoa ... mahagandu, whoever you are ... chill ... fullmetal vedanti will hate you more, as he might think you are taking sides with me ... but of course, I'd like to know who you are so please add me on yahoo messenger ... ID : young_love_crazy ... oh my god, does my ID reveal the fact that I fantasise abt being a stud ... where's the DELETE button !!!!!!!!!!!!! oh no, this one's ENTER, the comment's already been posted !!!
and no, mahagandu, I did not teach him drums ... he's got the music sense ... and he was inspired by Dash.
yup yup, svladcjelli, I give it to u, fullmetal vedanti is way out of your league, in pushing me off the edge...the secret lies in enjoying what you do, and sadism has pleasures of its own kind :D
@kartik : I am trying hard but every post (other than mine) is in someway dedicated towards doing me some service :D
"yaa we still need to learn how to mix our sound well. But I believe none of us were born with good soundman skills"
I dont think it had much to do with Abir Da and the sound mixing.
Patches meant to camouflage dirty playing won't always sound great onstage....all we ever heard were drums and vocals(I am not exactly sure how you define Drums/Snare/Tom and Vocals being in key though).
It was actually funny to see literally every hall having 10000 guys(RK had like a million more) flocking around Abir Da. Thats something which never helps.
@SNite : o_0 there's music besides metal?
And RP only played two metal numbers.
oh my god !!! did fullmetal vedanti make a grammatical error ??!!
try something like suggesting movies for people ...
heheh...either he is suggesting that there are creatures other than people that watch movies, or he HAS made a grammatical error ...
here,let me correct it ...
try something like suggesting movies for people to watch ...
@kartik : well, every other post mentions me atleast once ... :D ... hope you don't mind ?
@Cyren : I never did mention "Bad patches" or anything else being the reason.
We all know that just about anything goes in Interhalls.And I guess you know that I dont care about monkey faeces/who played well at Interhalls/who won...
Just swap the RP and RK slots, and the results would have been the other way round.
To be honest, no hall had great patches to begin with.
RK used a stranger guitar combo amp for their bass. Few things can get dumber(Like Shubhayan Ganguly,sound guy at wildfire, gettin Peavy 5150 monsters and not micing them)
A normal guitar cabinet,unlike music systems,is not full ranged.They are made for guitars and cant effectively reproduce bass frequencies. They could have done better by plugging in straight into the PA.
Guys this is adi..many askin me that mahagandu kon hai...honestly i dnt know!...i hav iima interview after 3 days so no interest to know also..but makin it clear that its not me!..u guys njoy hahaha!
I don't think patches matter at interhalls at all. Didnt Nehru win Interhalls twice with their top secret "Hall Funda Tone".They did manage to get fairly high points this year with worse patches. Calling those patches "worse" or "bad" is logically flawed though. That infamous "machhar" is just beyond the dimensions of "good" and "bad".
n ya kartik...n ppl stop criticizing others...every guy involved in music in kgp has to leave this place with hard feelings..even a god like sandy said once...i love music but hate music at kgp...so no point! n one more thing...hall tempo saab dikhate hai...but personal ego ka koi kuch nahi kar sakta! so aapni frustness better mai aapne gand mai rakho...no point criticizin or commentin on others...caz it wont change nethin...n winnin is not everythin in life...be happy that u learnt a lot in kgp which normal guys in other colleges cant...so jisne kaha tha school band wali baat...he know nothin..school mai aisa band hote hi nahi..dogs keep barkin so no point payin heed to them..n stop wat u r best!...i will be leavin this place in 2 months...i will forget the hard comments n bad things associated with music...but will remember some gr8 performances here...n some gr8 ppl...who r really the best....n to call somethin best is personal perception...wat i call best may appear worst to the next person...n peace marna better ha than to indulge urself in pointin the bad points of everyone else...nobody is perfect n noone is goin to be a musician so y to analyse so much...its secondary n will be secondary...n atleast jin logon ne kuch kiya hai they deserve some respect..i know this place dont know to respect...but still...jisne bass utne ka suggestion diya tha pehli bar...wo agar kuch haq se bolta hai to usse publically criticize karna agar theek hai to its better not to care!...n kartik...maine tujhe samajhaya tha life criticize karne se nahi chalta...saab frust hai yahan...but does it make ne differences?...ther r many better things in life than to jus provin ur points...cya guys...i wont open this site again...so not point replyin to this...cya..adi
anon-posts disabled.
well kartik ... I guess I have to issue a "thank you" note to you ... people are actually missing me soooooooo much :D ... ahhhh, appeases my fantasies so much !!! thank you-thank you (takes a bow).
late to reply to this, but i'm (almost) not visiting this blog anymore.
@densel - hi, nice to know that you read it full. you know what's true and what's not, so i won't stretch this any further. howz life?
@ashish - there are many things in the blog which were taken by different people as their criticism when that was not meant to be. same holds for you. you have done quite fair work as gymkhana ent-secy. thanks for your appreciation of rp's performances, and i just hope we get better/external judges for the interhalls soon...
nothing targetted on you, if i had that in mind, i would have criticized you as i did vishal singh. (anon is enabled again, i guess you had to make a new profile just to write those comments.)
@mahagandu - i don't care about who you are or what you do with your blog, (and an anon there is equally stupid to give my dc nick as his contact). what i know is you are enough jobless to create a blog just for the sake of taking revenge/being funny/showing off/whatever... and advertising here was a bad idea, so i deleted that also.
@coke,anon @ mahagandu - i didn't like 100 comments on my post, so i deleted many (nearly 30 till now) this is 97th now, and if people keep posting just because they have to say something (read say something stupid), probably the count will remain 97 forever.
hey...entertaining blog and comments...looked like an RK-RP fight...
By the way, I wanted to start a fight again , in case someone was visiting this blog even now... I thought RK's sound-mixing rocked... two ppl singing seconds and that being inaudible, bass being inaudible in most of the songs, these are only a few things i rememver... and i think you need lots of cali to butcher "take away my pain" so ruthlessly... didn't see RP's western performance, so dunno about it... but was disappointed that u guys didn't place
plzzzzzz don't delete this comment. I think your band rocks, it's the best band on campus... and i don't see that "peace-maaro" syndrome in you guys in ETMS pracs... anyways,in case you're still reading this, plzzzzzzzzz don't delete this comment... i want my comment to be the 100th one
@anon-on-2nd-apr - sorry. if you still have guts, write something like that without anonymity.
@sujata - etms practices are not exactly like rp's interhall practices, people are much more pessimistic than you think. about starting the fight again, i don't see any point because people hardly try to change their point of view even if it is wrong. and as i am deleting the stupid anon's comment, your comment no longer remains 100th... this becomes 100th comment now :p
Hi folks. I had a lot of fun reading all this. Especially the mahagandu stuff. Awesome stuff. I don't mind sitting down and not playing for the hall as long as people do not realize the essense of music. For me, it has to come out of the heart. The sooner it happens the better for the hall and etms and wtms. otherwise, i will just sit out and won't be a part of it. musicians were never musicians in this place. even those idiots arif and ojha and that machchar rana. all those were just a bunch of "britney spears" alike wannabes. so, are you all. please change yourself before the next musical year.
one thing for sure.... this is not coke. and, @mahagandu - i didn't know you have taken this so seriously that you update your blog since then watching what's happening here.. i mean MOVE ON !!
@mahagandu - funny but stupid effort to keep your blog being advertized
sara masala tere blog se hi...
2 saal baad bhi yehi masala chabaate rahega kya? ok sure you are not intelligent enough to make sense of rest of my posts... come on, take a break and give me one.
sabko apne image ki padi hai
so why don't you reveal yourself and show that you actually have some guts? tumhari image huha ho jayegi...
every one is afraid of me
true... dekh ... mai dar gaya.
tu bhi rathijii ka fan hai
when did i say that?
btw i read your latest post also. dont ask me my opinion.
and please dont comment here any further for 2 reasons -
1. whatever you have said till now, has not made any sense, so i don't see any point in giving you another chance to be rational.
2. it's really a pain in the a$$ to see another comment added after 100+ and waiting to load all the old ones just to see some chutiyaps written for umpteenth time.
p.s. mai sahi mai dar gaya, my hand is still trembling and i can hardly type...
ho gaya kela aabe kartik??? GOlden GC to the enemy hall. sudharne ko bol de aapne doston ko. abhi bhi time hai.
they had better won it with this a "selected" team (pun intended). thank goodness the selection won't happen that easily now onwards.
tananananan nanana naaananana
can there be anyone more jobless
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